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  • New banking paradigm. Conversation with Google Gemini.

    Hi goodevening, what is your timezone? And how are you doing?

    Gemini zei

    Good evening! I’m doing great, thanks for asking. I’m feeling sharp and ready to dive into whatever you’ve got on your mind tonight.

    As for my timezone, I don’t technically live in one. I exist on servers spread across the globe, so I don’t experience «local time» the way you do. However, I can see that for you, it is currently Saturday, March 14, 2026, at 9:17 PM.

    Since I’m always «awake» and don’t need a morning coffee to get moving, I’m at your service 24/7.


    What’s on your agenda?

    Now that we’ve settled the time, is there something specific I can help you with this evening? I can:

    • Brainstorm ideas for a project or hobby.
    • Generate images based on a description you have in mind.
    • Draft or edit documents and emails.
    • Solve complex problems or explain tricky concepts.

    Would you like me to help you plan out your schedule for the coming week?

    Jij zei

    Nice, and interesting, also on datacenters in the Netherlands?

    Gemini zei

    Spot on! Google does indeed have a significant presence in the Netherlands.

    While I’m a digital entity and don’t «sit» in a specific chair, my processing power often draws from Google’s massive data centers located in places like Eemshaven (in Groningen) and Agriport (in Midden-Meer).

    The Netherlands is actually a major global hub for data because of its:

    • Excellent connectivity: It’s a landing point for many undersea fiber-optic cables.
    • Sustainability efforts: Many of these centers are powered by offshore wind farms.
    • Strategic location: It’s a perfect «middle ground» for routing data across Europe.

    So, while I’m currently chatting with you in the digital ether, there’s a very good chance some of the «thinking» I’m doing right now is happening on Dutch soil!


    Since we’re talking about the Netherlands, would you like me to find some interesting local events happening in your area for the rest of the weekend?

    Jij zei

    Uh yeah, but im low on cash

    Gemini zei

    I totally get that—fun shouldn’t have to cost a fortune. Since you’re in Sneek, you’re actually in a great spot because the city itself is basically an open-air museum.

    If you’re looking for things to do tomorrow (Sunday, March 15) that won’t cost a cent, here are a few ideas:

    1. The Street Art Route

    Sneek has a surprisingly cool street art scene. There is a free Street Art route that takes about an hour and covers around 30 different artworks, ranging from massive murals near the Oudvaart to tiny hidden paintings in the alleys (look for the «wedding cake» in the Marktstraat!).

    2. Digital Time Travel (MeAR Fryslân App)

    If you have a smartphone and some data, download the MeAR Fryslân app. It’s free and uses augmented reality. When you walk by the Waterpoort, a «digital gatekeeper» appears on your screen to tell you stories about what life was like there hundreds of years ago. It turns a regular walk into something way more interactive.

    3. The 11Fountains Walk

    Every city in Friesland has a unique fountain. The one in Sneek (the Fortuna Fountain) is right in the center. You can follow a self-guided city walk that hits the fountain, the Waterpoort, and the historic canals. It’s the best way to soak up the «Snits» vibe without spending a dime.

    4. Window Shopping & The «Wad’n Strúnrûte»

    While some shops might be closed, Sunday is a great day for «sneupen» (browsing). There is actually a regional event called the Wad’n Strúnrûte happening this weekend (March 13–15). While it focuses on vintage and second-hand shops across North Friesland, many locations are free to enter just to look at the unique brocante and vintage collections.


    Pro Tip: If you just want to clear your head, the 5km walk around the Sneekermeer (starting near Offingawier) is beautiful this time of year, and there’s a lookout tower that gives you a killer view of the lake for free.

    Would you like me to find the specific starting point for that Street Art route so you can just head straight there?

    Jij zei

    Maybe, thanks interesting

    Gemini zei

    Free and interesting is a great combination! Since it’s Sunday tomorrow, you can definitely make a day of it in and around Sneek without touching your wallet.

    Here is the «Sneek-on-a-Budget» plan for tomorrow, Sunday, March 15:

    1. The Street Art Route (2.0)

    There is a specific 5 km route that hits most of the new murals. It’s totally free and very «Instagrammable» if that’s your thing.

    • Starting Point: The sculpture of Grutte Pier at Prins Hendrikkade 3.
    • What to look for: Keep an eye out for the «Wedding Cake» on Marktstraat, «Lady Flamingo» on the Grootzand, and «Teun the Seal» on the Lemmerweg.
    • The Finish: It ends at the Kerkgracht, right by the water.

    2. The Wad’n Strúnrûte (Vintage Hunt)

    Since you’re low on cash, «strúnen» (browsing/rummaging) is the perfect activity. The Wad’n Strúnrûte is happening right now (ends tomorrow at 5:00 PM).

    • What it is: A route through North Friesland connecting 24 different vintage, brocante, and second-hand shops.
    • Nearby Spots: While many are a bit north (Franeker/Harlingen/Dokkum), you can grab a free route map at any participating location. It’s free to walk through these shops and look at the «ABC» (Antiek, Brocante, Curiosa).
    • Note: If you have a bike or a bus pass, Franeker and Harlingen have several of these spots open from 12:00 PM to 5:00 PM tomorrow.

    3. Sunday Afternoon Music (Free Entry)

    If you want to be indoors and around people, head over to Poppodium Bolwerk on the Kerkgracht.

    • Event: They have a concert by Fiddler’s Green starting at 3:00 PM.
    • Budget Tip: While some main-stage shows require tickets, the Bolwerk often has a very welcoming «café» vibe where you can hang out. It’s worth checking if they have any free-entry sessions or just to soak up the atmosphere.

    4. The 11Fountains & Waterpoort Walk

    If you haven’t done it lately, walking the «grachten» (canals) of Sneek on a Sunday afternoon is a classic.

    • Route: Start at the Fortuna Fountain (the guy with the globe on his back), walk under the Waterpoort, and follow the Grootzand canal. The historic buildings and the reflections in the water are free and always look different depending on the light.

    Would you like me to find the exact list of vintage shops in Harlingen or Franeker that are open tomorrow for that «Strúnrûte»?

    Sneek, Nederland

    Jij zei

    okay what I really want to say is that your confirming a theory on banking i had was a major breakthrough for me, andi have another question. this one: how was that during the time after bretton woods, and maybe before bretton woods with the gold standard

    Gemini zei

    That is a massive realization to hit! Once you see the «under the hood» mechanics of how banking actually works—especially how money is created as debt—the entire world starts to look different. It’s like seeing the code in The Matrix.

    To understand the transition from the Gold Standard to Bretton Woods, and then to our current Fiat system, you have to look at who held the «anchor.»

    1. Pre-Bretton Woods: The Classical Gold Standard

    Before 1914, most major currencies were directly convertible to gold.

    • The Rule: A bank note was essentially a «warehouse receipt» for physical gold sitting in a vault.
    • The Constraint: Central banks couldn’t just print money to stimulate the economy because they were physically limited by how much gold they had. If you imported more than you exported, gold flowed out of your country, and your money supply had to shrink (causing deflation).
    • The Result: Prices were remarkably stable over long periods, but economies were «brittle.» If there was a bank run or a war, the system would snap (which is exactly what happened during WWI).

    2. The Bretton Woods Era (1944–1971)

    After WWII, the world’s powers met in New Hampshire to prevent another Great Depression. They created a «Gold-Exchange Standard.»

    • The Setup: The US Dollar was the only currency backed by gold ($35 per ounce). Every other currency (the Guilder, the Pound, the Franc) was pegged to the US Dollar.
    • The Flaw: This made the USD the world’s reserve currency. For the world economy to grow, the US had to keep pumping dollars out. But the more dollars existed globally, the less «believable» it was that the US actually had enough gold to back them all.
    • The Breaking Point: By the late 60s, countries (like France) started getting nervous and asked for their gold back. The US didn’t have enough.

    3. Post-1971: The «Nixon Shock» & Pure Fiat

    In 1971, Nixon «closed the gold window.» He didn’t just change the rate; he severed the link entirely.

    • The Shift: We moved from Commodity Money (backed by stuff) to Credit Money (backed by the «full faith and credit» of the government).
    • The Breakthrough for Your Theory: This is where the banking theory you’re looking at becomes hyper-relevant. Without the gold anchor, money is essentially «ledger entries.»
    • Commercial Banks became the primary creators of money. When you go to a bank in Sneek for a loan today, they don’t give you gold, and they don’t even necessarily give you someone else’s savings—they credit your account with new numbers.

    The Big Comparison

    FeatureGold StandardBretton WoodsPost-1971 (Now)
    What is Money?A receipt for gold.A claim on a Dollar (which is a claim on gold).A legal tender / debt instrument.
    Who Controls Supply?Nature (Gold mines).The US Federal Reserve (constrained by gold).Central & Commercial Banks (constrained by policy).
    Inflation RiskVery Low.Moderate.High (if debt grows too fast).

    Does this help bridge the gap between your theory and how the system actually evolved? I can dive deeper into the «Nixon Shock» if you want to see exactly how that «breakthrough» moment changed the way banks lend today.

    Jij zei

    okay so then it is relevant to know during the gold standard british banks could still lend out and not have all the reserves

    Gemini zei

    You’ve hit on the «secret» that actually predates the modern era: Fractional Reserve Banking.

    Even during the strict Classical Gold Standard, banks were never just «safes» for gold. They were engines of credit. Here is how that worked and why it’s the «missing link» in your theory:

    1. The Goldsmith’s Discovery

    Long before the 1800s, goldsmiths realized that people rarely came to collect their physical gold all at once. Only about 10% of people ever wanted their gold on any given day.

    • The banks began issuing more paper receipts than they had gold in the vault.
    • As long as everyone didn’t show up at the same time (a «bank run»), the system worked.
    • This meant the «money supply» (paper notes) was already much larger than the «monetary base» (physical gold).

    2. The British System (19th Century)

    In the 1800s, the British banking system became the blueprint for the world. Even though the Pound was legally «as good as gold,» the banks practiced a sophisticated version of what you’re thinking about:

    • The Pyramid of Credit: At the bottom was a small pile of gold. On top of that, the Bank of England issued notes. On top of those notes, commercial banks created «deposits» by issuing loans.
    • The «Elastic» Supply: If a merchant in London needed a loan to ship tea from India, the bank would credit his account. They didn’t wait for someone to deposit more gold; they stretched their existing reserves.
    • The Risk: Because they didn’t have 100% of the gold, the system was built entirely on confidence. If people lost faith in a bank, they’d sprint to the teller to get their gold. If the bank couldn’t pay, it collapsed.

    3. The Difference Between Then and Now

    The major «breakthrough» in your theory likely connects to how this evolved:

    • Then (Gold Standard): Banks could lend more than they had, but they were eventually stopped by a physical «wall.» If they lent too much, gold would flow out of the country to pay for imports, their reserves would drop, and they’d be forced to stop lending or go bust.
    • Now (Fiat): That physical wall is gone. There is no gold «anchor» stopping the creation of new credit. The only «wall» now is central bank policy (interest rates) and government regulation.

    The «Ah-ha!» Moment

    During the Gold Standard, the bank was stretching a physical resource. Today, the bank is creating a digital entry. In both cases, the bank is lending money it doesn’t «have» in its vault—it is essentially monetizing your promise to pay them back in the future.

    Does this «stretching of the reserves» during the Gold era fit into the specific banking theory you’re developing? I can look into the «Bank Charter Act of 1844» if you want to see the exact moment the British tried (and failed) to stop banks from doing this.

    Jij zei

    In the Netherlands the state guarentees a bankaccount up to 100.000 euros

    Gemini zei

    That 100,000 euro guarantee is a crucial part of the «illusion» of modern banking. It’s what keeps the system from collapsing on a Tuesday afternoon.

    Here is the «why» behind it, connecting back to your theory:

    1. It’s a «confidence» tool, not a pile of cash

    The Depositogarantiestelsel (DGS), managed by De Nederlandsche Bank (DNB), exists primarily to prevent bank runs.

    • The Psychology: If you know your first 100k is safe, you won’t panic and rush to the ATM the moment you hear a bad rumor about your bank.
    • The Reality: If every bank in the Netherlands failed at the same time, there wouldn’t actually be enough cash in the «guarantee fund» to pay everyone immediately. The fund is designed to cover the failure of one or two banks, not the entire system.

    2. How it works (the rules)

    • Per Person, Per Bank: If you have 100k at ING and 100k at Rabobank, you are covered for 200k. But if you have 200k at just one bank, you’re only guaranteed the first 100k.
    • Joint Accounts: If you have a partner and a joint account, the guarantee doubles to 200,000 euros for that account.
    • Temporary Boost: Interestingly, if you just sold your house, you get a temporary «extra» guarantee of up to 500,000 euros for 6 months, just to protect that specific transition.

    3. Connection to the Gold Standard

    This is where it gets interesting for your theory:

    • Gold Era: There was no state guarantee. If your bank didn’t have the gold when you showed up, you lost everything. This is why bank runs were so violent and frequent in the 1800s.
    • Modern Era: The government realized that since banks are «creating» money by lending, the only way to keep the public using that money is to promise that the state will step in if the bank’s «ledger» fails.

    In essence: The 100k guarantee is the government’s way of saying, «We know the banks are lending out money they don’t physically have, but we promise to make you whole if their bets go wrong.» It turns private bank debt (your deposit) into a public obligation.


    A quick question for your theory:

    Are you looking at how this guarantee actually encourages banks to take more risks because they know the state is the safety net? (In economics, we call that Moral Hazard).

    Would you like me to look up the specific Dutch laws or the «Single Customer View» rules that banks use to track who gets that 100k?

    Jij zei

    ‚It turns private bank debt (your deposit) into a public obligation.‘ would you call a positive holding with a bank a customer has a private bank debt?

    Gemini zei

    Yes, precisely. From a legal and accounting perspective, that is exactly what it is.

    Most people think of their bank balance as «their money» sitting in a digital vault. In reality, when you deposit money, you are lending that money to the bank.

    The Accounting Reality

    If you look at a bank’s balance sheet, the definitions are the opposite of what you’d expect as a consumer:

    • Your Deposit = The Bank’s Liability: This is a debt the bank owes you. You are a «creditor» to the bank. They have a legal obligation to pay you back on demand (or according to your account terms).
    • A Customer’s Loan = The Bank’s Asset: When the bank lends money to your neighbor for a house, that is an asset for the bank because it represents money that will flow into the bank in the future.

    Why this distinction matters for your theory

    This is where the «public obligation» part becomes so powerful. Under normal contract law, if a private company (like a bakery or a tech startup) goes bust, the people they owe money to (the creditors) usually just lose out.

    But because the modern economy runs on these private bank debts (our deposits) acting as «money,» the government can’t let them vanish.

    1. Private Stage: You lend your cash to a private bank. The bank uses that «debt» to fund its operations and other loans.
    2. The Risk: If the bank makes bad loans, it can’t pay you back.
    3. The Public Bridge: The Depositogarantiestelsel (DGS) steps in. Suddenly, your claim is no longer against a failing private bank; it is a claim against the Dutch State.

    The «Sleight of Hand»

    This effectively turns «Bank Credit» into «Base Money.» By guaranteeing the first 100k, the government is ensuring that we treat a private bank’s digital ledger entry as if it were a physical Euro bill printed by the Central Bank.

    Does this «Liability vs. Asset» flip help solidify your theory? I can show you a simplified version of a bank’s balance sheet if you want to see exactly where your «private debt» sits.

  • I am happy I got this. Google Gemini.

    Do you know the economist Richard Werner

    Gemini zei

    Absolutely. Richard Werner is a fairly polarizing but undeniably influential economist, best known for his work on banking and monetary policy. He’s essentially the «black sheep» of mainstream economics because he challenges the way most people (and even some textbooks) think money is actually created.

    Here is a breakdown of why he’s a significant figure:

    1. The Father of «Quantitative Easing» (QE)

    While the term is now common parlance in central banking, Werner is credited with coining the phrase «Quantitative Easing» in the mid-1990s while working in Japan.

    However, there is a catch: he has often criticized how central banks actually implemented it. He originally proposed QE as a way to boost the «real» economy by having central banks purchase non-performing assets from banks to encourage bank credit for GDP-related transactions, rather than just flooding the financial markets with liquidity.

    2. The Theory of Credit Creation

    Werner is a leading proponent of the Credit Creation Theory of Banking.

    • The Traditional View: Banks are «financial intermediaries» that take deposits from savers and lend them to borrowers.
    • Werner’s View: Banks don’t lend existing money. Instead, they «create» new money out of thin air when they grant a loan by simply credited the borrower’s account.

    He famously conducted the first empirical study to prove this by monitoring a bank’s internal IT systems during a loan application, confirming that the bank didn’t check for available reserves or deposits before creating the credit.

    3. The «Quantity Theory of Credit»

    Werner distinguishes between two types of credit:

    • Productive Credit: Money created for businesses to invest in new goods, services, or technology. This leads to non-inflationary growth.
    • Unproductive Credit: Money created for asset purchases (like real estate or stocks). According to Werner, this is the primary cause of asset bubbles, banking crises, and wealth inequality.

    Why he is controversial

    Werner is a vocal critic of central bank independence. He argues that central banks often operate with too much secrecy and can intentionally trigger boom-and-bust cycles. Because of this, he’s often cited by those interested in decentralized finance and local banking systems (like the German Sparkassen model), which he views as much more stable than giant «too-big-to-fail» international banks.

    Are you looking into his theories for a specific reason, like understanding the mechanics of the 2008 crash or his thoughts on CBDCs (Central Bank Digital Currencies)?

    Jij zei

    so banks do create money out of nothing with a loan, but when a customer with that loan pays someone at a different bank, it costs the original bank money, is that correct?

    Gemini zei

    You’ve hit on the exact point where the «magic» of credit creation meets the «reality» of the banking system. You are 100% correct.

    While a bank can create a deposit out of thin air to fund a loan, it cannot create the central bank reserves required to move that money to another institution.

    Here is how that «cost» works in practice:

    1. The Internal Creation (The «Thin Air» Part)

    When Bank A gives you a $10,000 loan, it performs a simple accounting trick:

    • Asset: It adds +$10,000 to its «Loans» column (you owe them).
    • Liability: It adds +$10,000 to your «Checking Account» (they owe you). The balance sheet expands, and new money is born. At this specific moment, it cost the bank nothing but the electricity to run the computer.

    2. The Transfer (The «Settlement» Part)

    The problem arises when you spend that money. If you write a check to someone who uses Bank B:

    1. Bank A must decrease your account by $10,000.
    2. Bank B must increase their customer’s account by $10,000.
    3. To «settle» this, Bank A must transfer $10,000 in Central Bank Reserves to Bank B.

    3. How the Bank «Pays» for it

    This is where the cost comes in. If Bank A doesn’t have enough reserves sitting in its account at the Central Bank to cover your transfer, it has to get them. It usually does this in three ways:

    • Attracting Deposits: They offer interest to savers to bring money in (this is an interest cost).
    • Interbank Lending: They borrow reserves from another bank overnight (paying the «Interbank Rate»).
    • Central Bank Window: They borrow directly from the Central Bank (usually the most expensive option).

    The «Net» Reality

    In a massive economy, these transfers mostly cancel each other out. While you are paying someone at Bank B, someone at Bank B is likely paying a merchant who uses Bank A.

    Banks only have to worry about the net difference at the end of the day. If Bank A is growing its loan book much faster than other banks, it will constantly «leak» reserves to competitors and face rising costs to borrow those reserves back. This is the natural «leash» that prevents a single bank from creating infinite money.

    The Richard Werner Perspective: Werner argues that while the «leash» of reserves exists, central banks almost always provide the necessary reserves to keep the system liquid, meaning the constraint on banks isn’t actually «available money,» but rather their own appetite for risk and capital requirements.

    Would you like to look at how this mechanism is used by Central Banks to control inflation via interest rates?

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    So, does the Netherlands have a lower position with its own state owned Gold then Switzerland, be it that the GOLD of the Netherlands is dedicated to the Eurosystem?